We went to Rochester to see Judy Collins, being the old hippies that we are. We love old grand hotels that are in working order, & the Kahler is, for the most part. But the toilet in our room required almost divine intervention to work. We finally just flushed it by dumping in water that we we collected in the waste basket, having filled that ip in the bathtub. Other than that, it was alright. Restaurant was a little pricey, but food was really good.